Cody O'Connor

The thing that makes him seem to strange is that so few people know anything about global warming and/or understand the threat we're facing. I guess there are people who deny its existence, but from what I know about the increasing population as well as the environment, it would be good to get a little more concerned.
 

I don't really believe in global warming. But if research is to be done it shouldn't be by Al Gore. I mean he's not exactly a scientest. He's a politician. I think any research should be done by scientests who are unbiased.

I also don't really think that Gore is a fascit. That goes a little far. Plus I don't really think he has the people skills neccesary to become some kind of fascist dictator.
 

your right Robby, he's not a fascist. He's and eco-fascist. Haha. But, I know what you mean, he's not completely fascist. But damn near close.
 

Whether he is or not though I doubt he could do anything with it. Hitler at least had great charisma. Of course he was totally evil. Al Gore I think won't go places like he did, for good or ill.
 

I don't think Al Gore is doing the scientific research...he's just the one conveying it.
 

Maybe but as a politician he still has this agenda which I think disqualifies him as the one to convey it.
 

If his agenda is to not be ignorant about the environment, what's the problem? You've already said that you don't care about the environment, but other people caring about it isn't a bad thing. They'll be the ones making the changes so that your world doesn't physically become unlivable. So even if you don't care...you should probably be grateful for the people who do.
 

You're believing in, or not believing in Global Warming doesn't change the facts:

Global warming proof detected (excerpt) The scientists describe their results as "the smoking gun that we were looking for", removing any doubt that human activities are warming the planet. (4/28/2005. Richard Black, BBC News environment correspondent)

New proof that man has caused global warming (2/18/2005. Mark Henderson, Science Correspondent, TimesOnLine)

The Scientific Consensus on Climate Change (excerpt) In its most recent assessment, The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change states unequivocally that the consensus of scientific opinion is that Earth's climate is being affected by human activities: "Human activities ... are modifying the concentration of atmospheric constituents... that absorb or scatter radiant energy... Most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations". (12/2004. Naomi Oreskes, Science Magazine)

Also, why are you worried about an Al Gore as president power grab? Not only has he stated his intentions not to run again, but we have a president RIGHT NOW who is increasing his power in a manner unprecedented in the history of our nation!

Bush challenges hundreds of laws. President cites powers of his office. (excerpt) President Bush has quietly claimed the authority to disobey more than 750 laws enacted since he took office, asserting that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution. Among the laws Bush said he can ignore are military rules and regulations, affirmative-action provisions, requirements that Congress be told about immigration services problems, whistle-blower protections for nuclear regulatory officials, and safeguards against political interference in federally funded research.

Legal scholars say the scope and aggression of Bush's assertions that he can bypass laws represent a concerted effort to expand his power at the expense of Congress, upsetting the balance between the branches of government. David Golove, a New York University law professor who specializes in executive-power issues, said that to the extent Bush is interpreting the Constitution in defiance of the Supreme Court's precedents, he threatens to "overturn the existing structures of constitutional law". A president who ignores the court, backed by a Congress that is unwilling to challenge him, Golove said, can make the Constitution simply "disappear". (4/30/2006. Charlie Savage, Globe Staff. Boston.com National News)

Gore: Resist Bush's excessive power grab Former vice president calls for probe into warrantless wiretaps. (excerpt) Gore said the use of the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on Americans without court approval shows that President Bush "has been breaking the law repeatedly and persistently". (1/16/2006. CNN.com)

The facts are that the United States is well on the road to fascism. Only it is George W. bush (and not Al Gore) who is leading us there.

The Dictatorship Scores a Daily Double (excerpt) It was quite a day in Amerikkka for the Dictatorship this Thursday, Sept. 28th, 2006. A "day that will live in infamy" someone once said. For on this day the Dictatorship of Bush the Lesser has been ensconced into law by his rubber-stamp Congress, with Democratic complicity. It has scored the Daily Double of legalized torture and warrantless spying. The Dictatorship has been handed the final tools necessary for unfettered totalitarianism. Not only has this illegitimate miscreant been handed the power to revoke Habeas Corpus (denying "detainees" the right of access to the courts), the authority to "interpret" the Geneva Conventions and the War Crimes Act (to torture as he sees fit), to use secret evidence, evidence obtained by torture, legalized use of secret prisons, handed the coup de grace of warrantless spying on us all, but also retro-active immunity from prosecution for any Crimes Against Humanity previously committed.... (9/29/2006. Democrats.com)
 

First of all, yes, as of now the Earth is growing warmer. But, if you look at the graphs of temperature of the years, it appears the planets temperature cycles from hot and cold periods and right now we're at the peak of the planets hot cycle. Just look at the graph.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Temperature_Comparison.png

Second, I hope to God he doesn't run again, and if he does I doubt he would get elected, but I am just speculating on how it would be if he was and I don't like it.

Third, I'm am with you that no politician should become to powerful, including Bush.

Fourth, could you tell me what the heck the new Democratic slogan means? This whole "rubber-stamp congress" thing. What, did "tough and smart" not work out because neither adjective describes the Democratic party?
 

Cody O. Said... First of all, yes, as of now the Earth is growing warmer.

The earth is warming up due to human activities.

I don't see that the link you provided disputes this. So why, exactly, do you believe global warming is NOT caused by our burning of fossil fuels? Yes, the earth has gone through periods of warming and cooling that were not related to human activities. This time, however, human activities are the cause.

Check out the EPA's website (a governmental agency). They stress that there are "uncertainties" -- but I think it's pretty obvious that the reason for this is because bush is the president.

From the EPA Website: What's Known for Certain? Scientists know for certain that human activities are changing the composition of Earth's atmosphere. Increasing levels of greenhouse gases, like carbon dioxide (CO2), in the atmosphere since pre-industrial times have been well documented. There is no doubt this atmospheric buildup of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases is largely the result of human activities.

It's well accepted by scientists that greenhouse gases trap heat in the Earth's atmosphere and tend to warm the planet. By increasing the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, human activities are strengthening Earth's natural greenhouse effect. The key greenhouse gases emitted by human activities remain in the atmosphere for periods ranging from decades to centuries. (end EPA article excerpt)

I presume you don't agree with this information either? If so, what is the basis for your non-belief?

Cody O. Said... Third, I'm am with you that no politician should become to powerful, including Bush.

Glad to hear it. I presume you no longer support him then? You didn't dispute any of the facts presented in the article excerpts I posted.

Cody O. Said... Second, I hope to God he doesn't run again, and if he does I doubt he would get elected, but I am just speculating on how it would be if he was and I don't like it.

I would be happy to vote for him. We'd get out of Iraq ASAP and be able to focus our energies and resources on REALLY combating terrorism -- instead of wasting money and lives on the Iraq fiasco. Second, we'd sign on to the kyoto accords. bush's claims that this would be disastrous for our economy is complete nonsense of course.

The "rubber-stamp congress" refers to the Republican majority giving bush whatever he wants. What don't you understand?
 

If his agenda is to not be ignorant about the environment, what's the problem?

His agenda causes him to believe that it exists, and no lack of evidence will convince him otherwise, that's all I mean. I don't mind him trying to find out more about this global warming theory, that's noble enough. It's just that we'd have to take his testimoney with a grain of salt because he's a politician. That's all I'm saying.

You've already said that you don't care about the environment,

Well not exactly, I just care about the proven things, like acid rain etc. Global warming is just a theory however, so I'm not terribly worried about it.

They'll be the ones making the changes so that your world doesn't physically become unlivable. So even if you don't care...you should probably be grateful for the people who do.

Well again, Al Gore may have a noble cause in trying to learn more about the enviroment and that's fine. But he does have this agenda I think gets in the way. I think that the research should be done by the scientests.

As for you dervish, I have better things to do than sort through a mountain of crap. Some of us have a life. So don't expect me to respond to your eight or ten pages of links okay?
 

"I presume you don't agree with this information either? If so, what is the basis for your non-belief?"

I'm not a scientist dervish and global warming isn't exactly my expertise, so I'll say right now that I'm just plain unsure if it's true or not. Either way I have no problem in looking at ways to help the environment but what I do stand firmly on is making sure one of those ways doens't include force. In this capitalistic nation, there are plently of ways to motivate people to buy eco-friendly cars, just take a gander at my last post.

This post isn't even about global warming, it's about freedom and capitalism and how they could be at stake when they don't have to be.

"Glad to hear it. I presume you no longer support him then? You didn't dispute any of the facts presented in the article excerpts I posted."

I'm with him on national defense, and even there I see plenty of room for improvement, but apart from that he just sucks.

"The "rubber-stamp congress" refers to the Republican majority giving bush whatever he wants. What don't you understand?"

I just hadn't researched it and wasn't quite sure what it meant.
 

It's too bad that you won't look at Dervish's links because they definitely prove you wrong. Even if it's only a "theory," is it still not worth it to reverse it? It wouldn't do any harm...only good.
 

It's too bad that you won't look at Dervish's links because they definitely prove you wrong. Even if it's only a "theory," is it still not worth it to reverse it? It wouldn't do any harm...only good.

I don't have the time to go through like thirty links, half of them from Democratic front groups. I have sort of a life believe it or not. Maybe he should learn to shorten his arguements. Also I don't think spending mass amounts of money on a mere thoery can only do good. It's waste, which is bad.
 

Robert M. Said... I don't have the time to go through like thirty links, half of them from Democratic front groups.

There aren't 30 links -- there are only THREE. You won't look because your mind is already made up. The bush administration told you what to think -- facts would only get in the way of that. BTW these links concern what SCIENTISTS say. They represent NONPARTISAN scientific organizations, not "Democratic front groups". BTW gravity is also a theory -- are you going to dispute that too?
 

I waiting for the global cooliing they told me was going to kill me in the 70's to happen.

Then I'll worry about the warming after that.

Envirotards - But this time we REALLY mean it!!
 

Good point CUG. Like I said, from what I see it's just a cycle and it will cool back off soon.
 

There aren't 30 links -- there are only THREE.

It's an expression, grow up.

BTW gravity is also a theory -- are you going to dispute that too?

Well let's see, gravity I can personally feel and experiance. Global warming I can't. That analogy is completly irrelevent. Now if you'll excuse me I have to go light the wood stove. (That damn global warming!)
 

Um... yeah whatever. (I think he's finally lost it guys...)
 

Cody,
You should read Michael Crichton's "State of Fear". The guy has a talent for research and he dug deep into the scientific evidence regarding global warming. He presents that evidence in a rather entertaining format but the message is clear...global warming is a hoax. There is basically ZERO evidence supporting Gore's claims.
 

That's why, in the scientific community, there is an almost 100 percent consensus when it comes to Global Warming. What's a "hoax" is the bush administrations Global Warming denials. They know it's real, but they still change the conclusions of THEIR OWN scientific reports at the behest of their big business benefactors. bush knows which side his bread is buttered on. And they could never admit the liberals are right, of course.

There is Overwhelming evidence to support Al Gore's claims!